Originally Posted by tbomachines

TDI - commands much more than gas versions, especially on the used market. The base golf TDIs were selling for thousands more than my GTI

Also I'm not hating on Hyundai, I think they're great cars. I cross-shopped the Genesis coupe when I was on the market and I found the base model lacking. There were some simple things in the design that I found to be problematic, most notably the window switches were mounted almost flush with the door/window rather than flat on the armrest. Basically it meant that you had to bend your arm rather uncomfortably to use them. Other little things like that, the upholstry was hideous (though nowhere near levels of the Mazdaspeed 3), ride was pretty harsh and that was without the R-Spec package which is what I wanted, and 19 inch wheels (wtf?) which didn't help the ride and will cost a fortune in tires in autox. I think if one were to get an upper level trim that it could compete very well with the Z and G35 Coupe. I wish they used the 274hp turbo 4 from the Kia Optima in the Genesis, then it would be absolutely awesome and competing with the forthcoming BRZ and FR-S (turbo engine just announced for those). Honestly the Kia Forte Koup is a kick ass car for the money, I seriously considered it.