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Old 12-24-2011, 10:32 AM
Brian Carlton Brian Carlton is offline
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Originally Posted by tomas_maly View Post
I'd like to find out what the best 'by-force' options are, that are fairly reliable and straight-forward.
When you find a "by force" option that is reliable and straight-forward, please let me know.

Your best solution, with whatever you choose, is going to be heat...........but, I realize that your mind is closed to that possibility............so, I wish you the best of luck in your endeavor.
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