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Well, guys.. I am gone a few hours and I am all of a sudden a mouth of propaganda machine. You are so deeply subscribed into a conspiracy theory that you ended up believing everything that seems to fit your frame. Please don't push your views that much; you may have to revisit them later. No need to judge so quickly!
Here are some remarks to clarify a few things:
- None ever questioned Kerry why he initiated a conversation in the first place about a social movement in a forum dedicated to Mercedes car parts. Kerry is trustworthy, credible, innocent but when someone responds to his post, he is propagandist, handler, all sorts of bad things. How fair!
- As to how a "handler" ended up on Mercedes car parts forum, everyone knows that there is a thing called Google Alerts. Gulen movement is one of the many things I follow news on things I am interested. When I saw how people are quickly laying out judgements freely, I couldn't help registering and posting my response. If you are imagining a central office assigning agents on desks to various tasks, you are dead wrong. I am just a regular businessman trying to live a decent life with his family, right here in Somerset, New Jersey. I am married to a lovely woman and have two kids, 10 and 8. If you want to visit me and get to know me (see how I am part of this so-called "propaganda' machine), you are always welcome (oopps!, this sounded like a missionary zealot! too bad!), just drop me a line..
- There is no need to be lost in all sorts of conspiracy theories, people.. Just read more about things you want to know more, meet people, challenge them if their way concerns you. It is not American to go around labeling people.
- Just to add more on the NYT reporters, yes, the reporter lives in Istanbul but does this make him a reliable person if his primary sources are critics of his subject matter? Here is a note. One of the people quoted in the article, Bohurler, publicly denied her remarks as quoted in the original article (International Herald Tribune) yet, the NYT didn't make any change in the rerun version. But, the title of the article was changed from "Shadowy Force Grows in Turkey" to "Turkey Feels Sway of Elusive Cleric in the US." Different audience, different agenda!
- If you read my post one more time, all I did was to invite you to read more on Turkey and Turkish politics. Without knowing the history of Gulen movement or the history of Turkish politics, your assessment is likely to be flawed or inaccurate. I gave you only a few hints about Turkish politics, didn't try to persuade you some hardcore facts, or didn't place labels on anyone, didn't call anyone "idiot" like some did in this thread. I know each person posting here subscribes to different ideals and values. But interestingly enough, I have been treated by all as a religious zealot, propagandist, handler, liar, puppet, etc at the same time. On what facts? Just a few lines I dropped here as a response to some claims. How lovely is this level of civility!
- I wish I would hear some responses to questions I raised in my original post including the nature of Turkish politics, the nature of anti-Gulen movement circles in Turkey, the nature of Turkish army's role over the Turkish society. All of these things are interrelated with the role and significance of the Gulen movement.
Hope you overcome your desire for judgements in rush in the future.
Happy Mercedes parts to everyone!
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