I knew a guy who was locked up at the LBJ, which was the Long Binh Jail in Saigon.

He took a shot at what he thinks was a Captain, but it was dark and the Captain was drunk. All he knew was that he shot at someone who refused to identify himself and when the MP's showed up they beat him into a stupor.

He did about ten days of hard labor and then the MP's showed up and tossed him out the door. He still has no concept of what was going on, and he retired with 20 years of service and NO mention of the incident in any of his paperwork.

I asked him about forming a reunion group and he told me is was different with the guys in the US Army jail than with the guys locked up in the HH.

He did tell me that the perception among many in the US Army of those locked up in the North was that they would wind up like some of those taken POW during Korea and never be seen again, and that was why they would move Heaven and Earth to recover a downed Pilot.

He said he never met any of the returning POW's, but he was involved rescuing a number of people who could easily have become 'guests' of the Worker Paradise in North Veit-Nam.