Thread: Born this way?
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Killer View Post
It is excedingly difficult to devine the ratio of predisposed attitude and learned adaptation, but I feel it is absurd to conclude that both are not impactful.
Then don't come to that conclusion. Personally, I find the suggestion that there is some ratio of 'predisposition' : 'learned adaptation' to be pulled from the ether absurd, and I am curious as to why you insist upon a theory of sexuality that "values" (second definition again) "learned adaptation." Would you entertain the argument that there is no "predisposed attitude" toward either heterosexuality or homosexuality (or pedophilia, etc., etc.), but that a person's "sexuality" is determined solely by the social construct in which they exist, and that the "validity" of their sexual identity is determined by the sexual paradigm of that society, which deems certain behaviors "acceptable" and others "deviant" for the sole purpose of maintianing that society's power structure?

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Originally Posted by Killer View Post
I'd adopted the position that sexual preference is "inherent and immutable" because I think that more accurately portrays the broadly held and promoted cultural meme best described as "born this way", as in "my sexual preferences are beyond my control and I am not responsible for feeling the way I do,and any disagreement is intolerance!" a vocal if not widely held attitude by a particular group of forum participants.
But isn't "your sexuality is a choice" also a cultural meme, as in "homosexuals should choose to not be homosexuals because a homosexual cannot reporduce, and sexual gratification for purposes other than reproduction is sinful, and any disagreement will subject you to eternal damnation!"? And to whom do you think one should be "responsible for feeling" that they were "born gay?" Again, I'm curious of your reaction to the argument that one's sexual preferences are beyond one's control, not because a person is "born that way (or the other)," but because sexual behavior (gay, straight, pediophile, etc.) is one way that our society has traditionally classified individuals and thereby reinforced what is "good" and what is "bad" for the purpose of protecting the dominance of a particular social paradigm or set of beliefs.

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Originally Posted by MTUpower View Post
We have societal laws regarding sex because those laws have helped create a strong society. Now many of those laws are being changed- if they help or hurt society is up for debate.
I would ask for whom did those laws help create a "strong" society. And what do you mean by "strong?"
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