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elchivito · #19 12-07-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Rapier

How is it know to you that a vast majority of rapes are committed by non-indian men when you later claim that victims rarely report these crimes?

The epidemic of violence against women on tribal lands is staggering; 34 percent of American Indian and Alaska Native women will be raped in their lifetimes, 39 percent will experience domestic violence, and as a Department of Justice study found, non-Indians commit 88 percent of these heinous crimes. Tribal justice systems are the most appropriate entities to root out these criminals, yet they are the ones with tied hands—restricted by antiquated jurisdictional laws established the U.S. government limiting tribes from prosecuting non-Native criminals.

VAWA Tribal Provisions Are Constitutionally Sound - ICTMN.com

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Originally Posted by Mark Rapier

If your other statements are to be beleived then you would have no objection to non-indian rapists avoiding prosecution, its attendent legal consequences and permanent record by settling up with the families of rape victims in exchange for some livestock?

I certainly didn't say I approved of that, I mentioned it in passing.You'd do well to avoid putting words in my mouth.

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Originally Posted by Mark Rapier

Under what principle of criminal jurisprudence does the victim's family become entitled to compensation for a rape committed against one of its females? How many ponys does the "victim" herself get, or is it more like the Islamic family/clan/tribe honor fetish? Under what principle of jurisprudence does the Navajo tribal police wield such discretion? Or should that aspect of tribal justice be reserved unequally for indians only?

Under no "principal of jurisprudence" that I'm aware of. The rape I mentioned was settled between families in a traditional manner and I am led to believe by a dozen years in close contact with this particular culture that that is often the case even today among traditional families. It is what it is, I did not express an opinion or justification for it one way or the other. Perhaps you have some other first hand knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Mark Rapier

Seems like everyone indian and non-indian alike have a constitutional right to equal protection before the law, no?

Makes sense to me, and that's exactly what the VAWA bill will do if Cantor and his racist cronies will quit dicking with it. Thanks for your input, Billy.