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Originally Posted by dropnosky
None of these armed teacher ideas individually are infringements, but what it does is set the stage for yet more restriction ideas, and greater control of general public under the guise of safety.
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Except that you are not controlling the public, you are merely allowing teachers to be armed on campus as opposed to the current situation where they are not allowed to be armed which is in fact a greater interference and control than if they were.
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I see it as another step on the road to hell paved with good intentions.
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And do you think the supporters of the 2nd see your attitude as any different?
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Personally, lets say we do arm teachers, and lets say the next mass shooting, the teacher, writing on a math board, is shot anyway,
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That's precisely why I suggested several armed staff members per campus. You need a "critical defensive mass". These nutjobs are not going to engage in protracted gun battles with armed opponents. Everytime they are confronted by armed people they kill themselves. So confront them early and get them killed soon. Wether by staff shooting back or by their own hand when they realize the game is up.
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What personal freedom do we remove to make sure these public areas are not at risk? You see when im going?
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Well, you clearly have no problem removing the personal freedom to live by the 2nd amendment of the US constitution, so frankly I don't see why you'd have any problem with the removal of other freedoms.
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These are steps towards a police state as an ultimate consequence
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Actually, they would be the precise opposite of a police state. A state where the citizenry is able to protect itself from harm is not a police state especially if it's not subject to the dictates of said state as to how and where it may defend itself.
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2ndly, I just don't find the idea realistically workable. If more people are harmed by their self defense guns in the home statistically than those that use them on intruders,
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That is a false statement. The idea that every time a gun is used in self defence it's reported to the police is inaccurate (I said used, not necessarily fired or fired to injurious or lethal effect).
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how can we say the introducing large numbers of guns into schools would not result in a greater number of deaths by accident than mass shootings prevented?
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That is a valid question. If teachers were to carry guns there would have to be stringent requirements regarding them. Certain types of guns are safer than others and some would be more and others less suitable for the task in a school environment. Ultimately of course the most important factor is the teacher themselves.
I don't know that it is a feasible option, but it seems better in my mind than providing whack jobs with giant soft targets called "gun free zones"
- Peter.
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