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Originally Posted by cmac2012
I'm not trying to defend the mistakes of ATF. OTOH, portraying them as wanting to fry a bunch of religious zanies is way off the mark IMO. You take the position that LEOs ought to be perfect and enlightened regardless of what a subject warranted for arrest does. If they had built "a fence around the compound" you and others would have another list of LEO abuses. And yeah, I'm just sure that would work while them inside had the arms and ammo of a small army.
There was enough testimony on child abuse to warrant some investigation of that but that wasn't the legal complaint AFAIK. They reportedly had some 50 illegally modified machine guns. Also live grenades and silencers, items they were not licensed to possess. Word I recall is that Koresh and gang openly brandished these weapons in public - not sure about TX law at the time but I'm pretty certain that full auto weapons are not allowed to be brandished in public.
How many weeks and months should LEO maintain a siege around such a place? At what point does the public outcry about starving a bunch of children become loud?
This business of standing jut jawed, as the true and last protector of genuine American liberty rings hollow to me. In a case like this, LEOs are given no slack while pea-brained fools like Koresh and minions are given an infinite amount.
Sorry man, that's disgusting crap.
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When we legally empower an agency to enforce laws then we should hold them to a higher standard than that to which we hold civilians. Police powers are awesome. The people enforcing them should be also.
Why? Because when law enforcement makes a mistake innocent peoples lives' are affected. Like those incinerated children, for example. Each of those people has a presumption of innocence associated with them individually. We don't do communal punishment. Or we shouldn't.
Law enforcement must never be given a break. The entire chain of command including the AG should have been shyte-canned.
When something this egregious happens, a bureaucratic letter of reprimand and early retirement just doesn't cut it. I want justice.