No, I don't have to have any particular kind of car. My girls are in college 600 miles from home and the vehicle they took with them now needs extensive repair, and I'd rather get something very reliable for them to take back, or let them take the newer minivan, which is still under warranty so they won't have to hassle with repair bills, etc., and then get something else for the little woman (and I do mean little) do drive. I saw this Volvo 850 for what appears to be a couple grand less than book values show, with 79K miles, and was wondering if anyone had experience with them. I guess what I'm looking for is a bird car (CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP). I HATE car shopping!! Any, thanks for the suggestion. BOB