That extra torque is likely why the V8 is still competitve in fuel economy when driven gently, lately I have been seeing about 17-18 city driving *normally* (under 3k rpm). I can easily accelerate in 4th gear at low speeds (1500-2000rpm) with the M116 without even touching the red/losing manifold vaccuum. And even on hills it never comes close to the red to maintain speed unless the A/C is on. That extra 1.2 liters of displacement and 2 cylinders makes the difference.

Realistically, older gassers are going to become obsolete soon with their thirsty behavior...when gas is $5+ it will make no sense to own/regularly drive vehicles averaging anywhere under 30mpg.

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