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Old 07-28-2013, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel View Post
Now you're saying that the Zim wasn't near TM??
How was he hitting him?? Some sort of secret-ninja-force-distant-punching??

My political view has absolutely nothing to do with having no idea who started the fight.
Neither does yours.
You accept that the Zim was set upon, I do not.
However, I also do not know that the Zim started the fight.

My point, and the point of others who are trying to discuss this with you, is that IF the Zim started the fight, then TM would have been employing self-defense. We will never know for sure.
Furthermore, if TM had beaten the Zim to death (silencing any conflicting story) he would have been fully protected under SYG by declaring himself in fear for his life.
There is no weapon requirement.... gun, shiv, bat, fists... all are welcomed by SYG.
I don't know who started the fight but TM had no injuries... so anyone and everyone would be hard pressed to say GZ threw the first punch and connected.

We also cannot say that if TM had beaten GZ to death that he would be "fully protected" by SYG. Only a judge or jury can come to that conclusion; I think you'd be hard pressed to find a majority of informed people that believe a young man who beat a neighborhood watch person to death would be declared not guilty with the SYG defense.