Originally Posted by barry12345

I did not read your refferance article. In some ways your descriptions are right. I have always hoped the report that they wanted peace negotiations that where turned down by the USA was false. If true the military industrial complex or whatever has far too much influence. To me it was an opportunity also missed to cool down Pakistan a little as well.

The resulting costs since that period with so called homeland security and military actions etc have been astronomical. The only change in spending so much money in a military way is just probably delaying the inevitable at best. When forces are pulled out of areas they will just take over in those areas is my opinion. Possibly just by local popular demand.

North American behavours may actually be somehow responsible for their actual growth. Once they rule a sovereign state may produce a more valid platform for them. A lot of effort with propaganda has been expended to label them a religious mania type of organization.

It has always concerned me that the people involved in the execution of 9/11 where by and large qualified engineers. For educated persons they would have to have real reasons to engage in that. Allah would not cut it as a belief. No more than me say having Christianity as a background to do it. Logic alone would prevent me and them from that approach.

Instead I saw it as a message that we are here and you will now hopefully have to deal with us. They had no official channels to address real grievances otherwise. My feeling is the way it was and is being handled is not the answer. Addressing true justifieable grievances is both much cheaper and could disband their activities. Otherwise it just goes on and on. Time also is probably with them.

The most dangerous statement in modern times that was not evaluated properly in my opinion. Was when the president used the sentence you did not earn it. In a complex way it is true. Much of our wealth is a result of taking it from other countries and their people until they have virtually nothing. Or leaving the equivalent behind. Or the absolute refusal to share their wealth by us that is still going on. Being a worlds superpower will not carry this policy much longer. North America got cheap oil and still does to a lesser extent is a good example. Propaganda enabled a good coverup on the methology used. I am not anti north American but a wrong unethical approach by us is still a wrong unethical approach.