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Old 02-09-2014, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by barry12345 View Post
No trying to maintain the status quo by changing nothing will only continue what is. Actually intensify it. Changing some things that are reasonable grievences of theirs would or should generally reduce it or stop it.

Try this on for size. When I was young it was told (propaganda)that the oil royalties from the large oil companies where shared with the general population of Saudi Arabia. They were all basically rich was the pitch. It turned out this was not true or an outright lie. The oil companies paid only the royal family and they do not share unless threatened.

A year or so ago for the first time to my knowledge. I think the royal family issued a 50k cheque to each poor member of their population as their selfishness issue at last was getting dangerous for them. The royal family and relatives plus extended families basically have endless wealth and a large percentage of the population basically nothing. A higher royalty would have had to be paid otherwise by the oil companies. Ben Laden Came from a fairly well off Saudi Arabian family and in my opinion had too large of a dose of what he saw. There is no other reasonable conclusion I suspect for his motivation. The 9/11 thing could have been prevented and possibly the ensuing consequences.

Americans should think about why they are disliked and the principal and participants for 9/11 that where all Saudi Arabians.. Until problems like this are addressed properly there will be unrest. People cannot wait forever for fair solutions.

For example currently every national citizen of Norway is a millionaire on paper from oil profits. The government will not distribute any of that wealth. At some point there will be some form of blowup. Hopefully it will remain internally and should. Plus it may not involve violence unless other forms do not work. Why not a partial distribution? Is greed without limits today. Sure save a portion for a rainy day fund but basically have to save all of it?

Modern cheap communication worldwide tends to mean that unfair situations no longer are isolated. Propaganda is used to contain them in many ways but is losing its effectiveness at an ever increasing rate.

For example as individuals we have no hard feelings. If I start to unreasonably not pay you properly for something of established value or you recieve no direct benefit from me doing so. At some point animosity will occur.

Greed is a two edged sword. Not smart business especially internationally. Now are we are involved in police type actions again for bad greedy self centered corporate practices? Besides overpaying them perhaps we need more ethical corporate leaders in our corporations for a start. Greedy practices should not be the benchmark for them. Creating the need for very dangerous employment in the military is not an upside either. More a somewhat avoidable sickness. We canadians I notice are being caught out a little more often in some of our international practices.

Once the USA Supported Israel they were never going to have real Friends in the Muslim World.

So as long a Israel exist the USA is going to get blamed for Israel’s existence.

The attacks on the USA real or threatened have no positive effect on any sort of fair solution. The attacks are merely for the Muslim Masses who think that drawing some Blood makes them more Powerful as they have a culture where revenge is prominent and important.

I say that because if the Muslims had real Power Israel would have been taken over by them.

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is an invention of the West and the original King was intelligent in picking the West over the Soviet Union and has prospered doing business with the West.

Since the Saudi's no longer need to worry about the Soviet Uninon they have increased their support against the West and being extremely wealthy it is easy for them to provide Money to that end.

So what is fair. The whole area of the Middle East at the end of WWII was either still a Colony of one of the Western Powers a large portion of which was a "War Prize" gained from the Ottoman Empire.

That left the West to do what ever they felt like it with the Territories.

So at what point of History does the unfairness start and how on earth could there be compensation for any past unfairness.
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