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Old 04-14-2014, 10:31 AM
Txjake Txjake is offline
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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel View Post
So in your world, anyone and everyone that has a disagreement with their taxes or their permits or licenses or any other .gov requirement should just refuse to play and the.gov should just let them be???
I think you are glorifying an idiot.

We would all like to think that it's noble and courageous to stand up to the evil forces of government, but this db has been in violation for over 20 years. Apparently the administrative and normal law enforcement pathways did not work, as the asshat ignored them. The escalation is his own doing and if anyone were to get hurt or killed, then the responsibility would be solely his.
And if the dead were a bunch of foil hatters who seek any justification to take up arms against the US Government, so much the better. In fact, I feel that those people that showed up armed to support this rancher in armed combat against the government should be prosecuted. They are worse than idiots, they are dangerous idiots. At least they will likely all be included in a few more databases....

Didn't the oath these SPECOP guys took state that they would defend the country against all enemies, foreign and domestic....?
In my world, rushing into a tense situation with your armed militia buddies hoping for a chance to shoot a federal agent qualifies you as a 'domestic enemy'...
Perhaps you might be right if there were not so many instances of the Feds viewing almost any confrontation as a "nail" for their "hammer". regardless of the ranchers various sins, I don't think it was appropriate to send in the reaction forces, armed like they would be in Iraq. It sends the wrong message and actually enflames situations. Those who stood up against the feds will almost certainly be targeted and rostered and investigated. Its sad to think that our govenment will do that. And, "against all enemies, foreign & domestic" is what they swore to uphold; however, those people were not domestic enemies. They are the people of this country, tired of repression and excessive force and control from a federal government that they see as corrupt. The founding fathers predicted this and tryed to put in place protections against it, not thinking that the congress itself would have become a despotic organization, that, instead of representing the states, colludes with a strong central government to corral power at the federal level.

Last edited by Txjake; 04-14-2014 at 01:20 PM. Reason: spelling
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