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Originally Posted by Botnst
I do not consider communism at all related to slavery. I think that is propaganda.
If your second supposition were true, then we would be talking about the industrialized South overwhelming the teeming labor markets of the Northeast.
Under the French and Spanish slavery system, slaves could earn money, own property, and buy their way to manumission. They had great incentive to be industrious and work hard.
Under the model American slave system (South Carolina's, later adopted by all other slave states to some degree and forced upon Louisiana for entry into the Union) slaves could not own property, could not earn money and could not be manumitted except under extraordinary circumstance. Thus, the slaves had no incentive to work or innovate other than coercion.
Because they had no positive reinforcement in law or fact, they were not as productive as whites and thus began the perception that black people are lazy and dumb. Under those circumstances I am sure I'd be dumb and lazy, too. And would probably have ended my short, miserable life hanged in some damned tree.
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I think it depends on what a persons definition of Slavery. Americans view Slavery from the American prespective of it. Slavery may have a broader definition that our Definition. As an example Slavery in the Bible is different than USA Slavery was.
I don't have any trouble fitting Communism into #2 or #4 except that the People were not owned by an individual the were owned by the State.
Slavery
1. system based on enslaved labor: the practice of, or a system based on, using the enforced labor of other people
2. condition of being enslaved laborer: the state or condition of being held in involuntary servitude as the property of somebody else
3. hard work: very hard work, especially for low pay and under bad conditions
4. state of being dominated: a state of being completely dominated by another
Calling somthing Propaganda (a lie) dose not discount the actual facts.
Concerning how workers felt towards Slavery in the Pre-Civil War years that is not something I made up that is something that I read about and it is one of the reasons they did not want Slavery Spreading to the new States.