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Originally Posted by OM603
In the long course of human conflict are you basing your argument as to the suitability of women in combat as compared to the suitability of men on such an extraordinarily tiny field of dubious exceptions.
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Merely calling out some of the more obvious examples of military excellence on the part of females.
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Do you deny that throughout human history that men have engaged in mortal combat on both the winning and on the losing sides in orders of magnitude many times greater than women have?
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There are a lot more Chevys than Porsches. Does that mean a Chevy is automatically superior to a Porsche?
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Are you trying to argue that because there may have been a few exceptions often in unique circumstances where a women might have been afforded a "leadership" role that there is any substantial evidence of a predominantly female force has defeated a predominantly male force anywhere at any time across the arch of human conflict?
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Not at the moment, but now I know what my homework is going to be.
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Can you cite a single example where the balance of the conflict was in great significance thrown to one side due to the inclusion of women combatants that the opposing side failed to avail itself of similarly.
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I've heard it argued that the outcome of WWII was significantly influenced by the greater use the Allies made of women in military and industrial roles vice the Axis. It was something I heard on the History Channel late one night. I may be able to get you an actual citation tomorrow.
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I served when the mission and primary objective was to impose our national will through the overwhelming force of arms, a couple hundreds of thousands of years of evolution has selected one gender better equipped to stomp on an opposing motherforkers chest and bayonet the same through his neck, than the other despite the current PC dogma to the contrary. And ultimately it always comes down exactly that in the end.
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I will concede that for physical reasons most young men are better suited to the infantry than most young women. However, you know as well as I do that the majority of people in the military aren't infantry. I look forward to continuing this discussion tomorrow. Right now it's time for me to head to the bar.