Exactly - they are "born from tractors" in opposition to "born from jets" as my wife and I like to say!

That's my rub - I love the simplicity and solid feeling but am tired of chasing the gremlin of the month - usually electronic. The acceleration is fine, as long as you plan ahead.. But after driving a few cars, the ride and power of the M104 is very appealing.

Chasing vacuum issues doesn't sound like any fun. (But it's great to see the locks drift in and out!) And yes, I've avoided all the K-Jet issues. I also recognize that a lot of those MB systems are more complex and precision dependent, not necessarily conducive to bouncing around in a car.

We're also considering a 2004-07 V70 2.5t, nice and quiet, powerful, good mileage, etc. but a little generic. The Saabs are also really nice but I fear finding any parts, especially if you need help outside of a major city, (where we tend to travel). Volvo is esoteric enough.

Thanks, I appreciate the insight!