Robert and tank-- i am glad the two of you "made up". I didnt want to see us mbshop members arguing over stuff, i kind of feel guilty since i started this thread.

For creatine, i used it before when i did work out and do now. The only problem i have is stomach upset, even with the efferecent creatine it still does it. I know that some people have been killed using this supplement but it is becasue they were wrestlers and was taking creatine but not drinking water and doing other things like cardio to make weight class. when people "abuse" or not understand what the drug is doing then it causes problems.

Robert Davis; your SEAL and ranger buddies, have they heard of Paul Vunak, Frank Gucci, and Hostile Control Systems SCARS training? In the early 90's (after movies like Under Seige) all these ads popped up with people "claiming" to have taught the SEALS, FBI, marine recons, etc. and came up with video tapes. I am wondering if they REALLY did teach or use these systems?

I bought one of Paul Vunaks tapes called "Street Smart" or something and basically i paid $40.00 for a tape that teaches you how to kick someone in the balls and jab them in the eye. Needless to say i was disappointed.

Supposedly hes the next "Jeet Kune Do" guru out there, but i never seen any of his "stuff".