Thanks for the suggestion on the brake light, I actually got one at the dealer and put it in, but it still doesn't work. Part of why I hate problems like this, something similar happened on the Alfa Milano I used to drive where it kept blowing the brake light fuse, and I had no idea what to do after checking a few obvious problems, but eventually someone said "there is a crimped on part of the ciggarette lighter in the dash that has probably come loose and shorts out the wires when you go over a bump, check that and it should fix your problem". Sure enough I checked and it took me about 5 minutes to fix it, but even if someone had offered me a million dollers to find the problem I am sure I never would have found it. I dont even know how people learn to do stuff like that. I may end up just trying to sell this car once I finish fixing the old subaru I have, because I really don't want to drive a car with missing brake lights.