Thread: 190E low power
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Old 09-29-2016, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by haasej2 View Post
Now for my question--WHAT IS NORMAL POWER? I've seen on the 0-60.com website that the 190E did 0-60 in under 9 sec, but it doesn't specify whether it was a manual or auto. I watched a utube video of a 190E doing 0-60 in under 9 sec, but it sounded like a manual with a good driver.
I had both a chassis dyno test and ran my 190E 2.6 five-speed on a drag strip several times. SAE corrected RWHP is about 135, which jibes with the SAE net crankshaft rating of 158 assuming 0.85 drivetrain/tire efficiency.

The biggest problem with 0-60 is traction due to the 57 percent front weight bias and open differential. I recall the 60' times were a bog slow 2.5+ seconds compared to 2.2 for my '91 MR2 with the 130 HP Camry engine, so 0-60 in about nine is realistic. It could be a lot closer to 8 with a LSD. ETs wera about 17 flat with a trap speed of 86, which is high for that ET. Again, it was a traction issue at the starting line. The MR2 was 16.6 at about 82, which reflects its excellent hookup at the starting line.

I have achieved 134 MPH on a level road and the acceleration from 70-90 in third gear is impressive. The 2.6 is certainly much faster than my previous '84 2.3!

One issue is the lazy spark advance map. Removing the R16/1 resistor will make it more aggressive and improve low end torque, which may be more of an issue with a manual since the converter will always achieve stall speed of about 2000 with significant throttle application. Prior to removing the R16/1 fifth was not useable below about 45 MPH. Now I can drop it in to fifth at about 35 (about 1500 revs) and don't have to downshift to accelerate moderately.

I short the R16/1 for emission testing to retard the spark advance map, which allows passing the ASM test with greater margin, but there is litterally no power below about 2000.

The R16/1 pigtail on the 190E 2.6 is tied to the plastic shield on the inside side of the battery compartment. Do a search to find out more about the R16/1.

Duke
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