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Squiggle Dog · #77 08-30-2018, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vwnate1

I don't agree that the facts back you up Squig. , I do agree that you're compassionate and I think that's a very good thing .

I rerally enjoyed my lunch of Liver Bacon and Onions !

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I didn't suggest taking Children to the slaughterhouse to shock / traumatize them, I meant it as a normal educational thing , like was done all the time sixty + years ago.....

Children are far more accepting and resilient to the facts of life than most seem to realize .

I seriously agree that _PEOPLE_ need to be forced to be responsible with pets and stock animals too ~ I never saw anyone mis treating animals when I was a Farm Boy .

I'm up for a challenge. Name something for which the facts do not back me up. Going vegan is better for the animals, better for humans, and better for the environment. It's rock solid logic and there is no argument against it other than selfish reasons such as cultural tradition, habit, taste preference, and convenience.

I'm sure you enjoyed your lunch of animal flesh, but it was at the cost of the lives of animals which suffered greatly and were killed just so you could feel satisfied. I wouldn't be proud of that and hope that one day you will come to value animal life a bit more.

Children are adaptable and easily molded. It's also easy to mold them into murderers and psychopaths if that's the aim. In fact, look at how many school shootings there are these days. It doesn't take much to influence a child.

Well, in these days of factory farming, animal abuse and cruelty is really unavoidable. No matter how nicely they are treated, they are murdered well before they would die of natural causes. These animals are nothing more than products to these industries, anyway.

Eating meat isn't a sustainable practice with the way the world population is increasing. Eating animals is an inefficient way of getting nutrition. It takes 2,500 gallons of water, 12 pounds of grain, 35 pounds of topsoil and the energy equivalent of one gallon of gasoline to produce one pound of feedlot beef. 70% of US grain production is fed to livestock. 5 million acres of rainforest are felled every year in South and Central America alone to create cattle pasture. Roughly 20% of all currently threatened and endangered species in the US are harmed by livestock grazing. Animal agriculture is a chief contributor to water pollution. America’s farm animals produce 10 times the waste produced by the human population.

If we ate just a plant-based diet, it would be so much more efficient and less taxing on the environment. The only reason beef is even affordable at all is because our tax dollars pay for subsidies to farmers. I'd rather that my tax dollars not be going towards this!