Ah, yes, I know where at least one of those old drunk qork it off camps is, not far out of Los Angeles, the ACLU & other well meaning but clueless boobs forced the County to shut it down, now its full of children and incredibly hostile 'adults', who know what's going on there .

In the 1970's L.A. County jail inmates could ask to be put on fire work detail and lived in barracks out in the canyons, they also did road repairs, many of which are still being used (rock retaining walls and sluices, drain offs etc. in the local mountains .

Apparently being responsible is no longer in fashion......

Much of my unbreakable work ethic was learned on a work farm down East in the 1960's .

Almost all of the inmates who refused to work (or be clean, decent etc., etc.) are DEAD now.....

The rest of us who realized what a great opportunity & chance we were being given, got out and prospered .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better