Where did the expression originate? Your going to hell in a hand basket. This indicated to me. That there may be a preference for the mode of transportation?

Actually people can become so polarized over religion. Or the lack of it and politics and parties. I am surprised when discussed those subjects remain pretty civil in general on this site. That almost indicates that perspectives may have also moderated over the years. In that both allow for the other now. Or at least more so than in the past.

That there is such a gulf between organized religion and religious beliefs has always been disturbing. With organized religion there is almost always a money trail involved. The Mormons just got tagged with running an investment fund of substantial size. Ten billion? Or was it one hundred billion.? In an illegal fashion under the tax laws.

For all reasonable purposes organized large religons have become very big businesses. The Catholic church announced their interest in withdrawing money laundering services from their banking services.. I suspect with the dollars involved they changed their minds. Organized religion invented the first corporations.