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the refurbs are only about $50 less and are typically a -1 generation so i would get a slower CPU etc. i've done most of my shopping online and have used a couple of aggregators to compare. so far, that seems to be the best price i've found. does anyone have any experience with emachines? they're a bit lower but i know they are a no-frills brand. i have never used any kind of support having built all my computers since the 386 came out. it's cheaper to buy entire systems now - just can't beat the prices anymore...
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