grapes11, as they say, great minds think alike. Some may think this is a redundant thread to the moderator's thread, but I think this thread could be quick and easily scanned to gauge just how many people on this forum have experienced this problem, and at what mileage and model. The other thread's great, but it requires you to read every posting to learn the details, and it may not involve a failure.

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Dave

1998 E320
2001 SLK320
2000 Lexus RX300