fahrgewehr2 yes I need a MB so bad. 84300DT if I do buy it I will not be driveing it until March. I want time to fully sort it out and let the roads get de-salted first. I think it could be a good first MB and learning project. If it cost me 3k in the end and I drive it for 5-6 years then sell it for 1k. Thats great!