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Originally posted by blackmercedes
Have you run an elementary class? Oh, I forgot, you have what, 10 years experience? 20?
Almost every school does this now. It's enormously time consuming for the teacher to keep track of what pencil belongs to what kid. They give a list of required supplies, the parent's buy them, they pool them, and as your kid needs something, it's given to them. Plain and simple. Nothing to do with communist plots or plans to overthrow capitalism. It has to do with large class sizes, and no funding for basic school supplies.
So, you've got the solution? "Individual bins." "Kids keep it themselves in their desks." It's all been tried, and it's all a huge waste of time. It's just typical crap. People have their shorts in their cracks over ten bucks in school supplies. Somehow this is an indication of the failure of public education?
Slow news day?
Okay, so it's not fair that your kid might use 10 pencils and someone else's kid used 11. Let's have a bloody riot over a couple bucks in school supplies. Most of our schools have aging playground equipment, class sizes balloning to over 30, no gym equipment, no aides for disabled kids, no early intervention programs, etc, but we're going to go on the war-path because the pencil distribution system might not be fair.
I can tell you that the parents that usually cry like crap over the injustice of the supplies-system are the ones that do the LEAST everywhere else. I can spot their kids a mile away. They are selfish boors that have adopted their parent's rude, overbearing, nit-picking, moronic micro-management stance on the world.
Of all the things to try to fix, this is what people are worried about?
Get a life.
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In my 12 years of attending public school (unfortunately), our pencils and notebooks and such were never taken from us. We were taught to have our own $h!t, keep up with our own $h!t, and we did, and it was fine...there was none of this "chaos" you talk about.
My parents owned and operated a small private school for over 14 years....Students were told what they needed to bring, and they did not confiscate any student's property, and there were no school supply crises then either.
My daughter's private school also does not confiscate their supplies, and she and her fellow students seem to be doing quite well. Excellent grades, and in the 6 years she has been going there, I have heard of no problems relating to individual kids not having what they need.
My nephew also attends a large private school. Same policy of "bring your own stuff", same conspicuous absence of any problems relating to it.
So yes, I DO have some experience.
The difference here is this: I do not see it being coincidence that as less and less personal responsibility, accountability, and private property concepts are taught and reinforced in our public schools, these same issues have become more and more of a problem in the "adult" world.
Of course, I'm sure you see no correlation there.
It's not about the damn pencils....It's about the concepts that it teaches....or more accurately, the concepts that it DOESN'T teach them.
Students learn that it's OK if they consistently don't show up with the things they are going to need for class, because someone else will take care of it for them. Why do it yourself when someone else will do it for you, right?
Then when they graduate to the real world, they will most likely apply the same lack of preparedness to their first job, and then they'll wonder why they get b!+ched at, or can't get a raise, or eventually get fired.
After all, they are applying the skills they learned in school!
Mike