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Old 04-30-2004, 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by TheVirginiaDude
The managing involved in my job field is easy compared to my current job.

However I would have to take a pay cut when a position comes availible.

Or take a huge loss in seniority in the company anf loss of leave time earned by going outside.

referencing my example of the bloated company. Half the signatures needed were people that had no input or knowledge of the work or changes being made, so what purpose did they serve?

The only checks and balances needed were people directly involved and knowledgible with the issues. Small company did just that, was very flexible and responsive to issues the bogged down in Bloated company.

I was working research and developement in both those situations. In most larger companies there is an excess of ueseless beurocricy that serves no purpose except consome profitible revenue created b the workers. It increaces overhead costs unessesarily.

I have a knack for streamlining procedures. And getting rid of uneeded and consolidating unprodutive steps.

I hate taking an hour to do a 20 minute job even if thats all I am doing.


Maybe I missed something, but I don't think anyone here is arguing that pointless middle-management and beaurocracy in large companies is a good thing, or that they deserve what they are paid....You are right about that. Why do you keep making this same point when nobody is disputing it?

But GOOD and USEFUL managers/bosses/whatever you want to call them....DO deserve more.

More often than not, one had to be a "worker" (as if people suddenly don't work anymore upon being promoted--a false assumption) for many years before gaining the experience and knowledge and seniority to become "management". This investment of time and effort should be rewarded.

Working your way into a position where you no longer have to negotiate your salary should be seen as a GOOD thing, a worthy goal....It should be admired, not resented. If you prefer where "they" are to where "you" are, then work your way up that ladder.

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