Notlostmaybe –You’re blowin it Bub. Before we ever went into Iraq and 70% were (seemed to me) blindly fallowing Dubya into Iraq - against the worldview - I made the Nutzi comparison as a potential. As a worst case scenario and everything goes as wrong as it possible could I guess (gives me chills) I could still see it, but no – don’t say that.
Kirk – Get over this idea that it’s a majority of Muslim’s. It’s a big number, and if we keep screwing this up it could grow very easily too that, but it’s not for now. Frankly though, it’s hard to believe we’re not going to keep screwing. They know all about how we work democracy – too install the Shaw we helped overthrow a democratically elected government. Saddam didn’t seem to take on this evil status until he wanted to take back that part of Iraq that England had created as Kuwait.
As for the Chamberlain comparison. History may just rank Bush’s blowing the opportunity we had for a world wide unified assault on terrorism after 9/11 to the blunder Chamberlain made.
For better or worse we are there now, so let’s try to keep the discussion on how to end, win, conclude successfully, find peace. Maybe the French, English or Russians might have some good insight – no Israel ought to have it pretty well figured out by now.
Bot –it’s not a matter of adopting their values. Their values are as diverse as our own. We’ve got to find and support that group within their community that we have common ground with. They’re there someplace, without being our puppets – I think?

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