Folks,

Thank you for all your humors and tricks and thank you Jim500E for offering a hand, I may take you up on this some days, you know what it is to own a 16V!!! spent a lot of time in the garage...

Came home from work today and looked all over for the propane torch, found the tank but where the hec is the valve part, found another tank still the valve is no where to be found, jumped in the car headed to Home Depot, bought a much hotter torch Acetyline, this little thing is real hot, it can even cut metal if you wanted too, heated up the exhaust pipe around the old O2 and in not time the pipe was red hot, soon after that the old O2 finally succumbed.

However, because the thread was welded to the O2, once I've got the O2 out and so did the thread, I had a real hard time putting the new O2 inplace, but luckly found an old spark plug tap that has the same thread and by re-tapping the thread, the new O2 went in very well.

Unfortunately, the new O2 did not help my 16V idle blue syndrome. Oh well that's life I guess.........

Alex