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Originally posted by zafarhayatkhan
I would like to clarify a few points:
1) Mercedes is safer that other makes. FALSE
Crash ratings for a Lexus LS 430 are better than an E320.
http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_lglux.htm
Earlier models are poor in some area's.
http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_lglux_earlier.htm
2) Mercedes cars before the 1990's were more reliable than other makes. FALSE
Toyota has been more reliable since the 80's.
3) The only thing wrong with the new Mercedes cars is the electronics. False
Mechanical componets have a high failure rate as well.
According to JD Powers, an 8 year old Lexus is more reliable than a new BMW.
My 94 E320 will probably be my first and last MB. Toyota or Lexus will be my next purchase.
I wish I had found this forum before I bought my E320. The preceived MB quality myth is so widespread, that people believe, all MB cars excel in all area's, including reliability.
Uptill mid 90's, MB were far behind the competition in feature content like electronics (compare a 95 E320 to a 95 Lexus LS400). Then MB over compensated and now they are back tracking again to reduce the non-value added electronics.
Having said that, the failures on my 94 E320 have been items that MB outsourced like Aux Fans, wiring harness, headgasket, ECM, ACC Control Unit etc.
MB built engine and transmission are in like new conditon.
One last item, if MB made 400,000 E320's per year, like Toyota makes Camry's, either MB quality would improve or they would go out of buisness.
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Hence why I said they are like any other car. Although some other cars are of course better or worse than others. Myself I could care less what a survey says, I go by personal experience.
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Yeah but catastrophic engine failure???? On a mercedes???Come on I'm sorry but this is one area I expect some perfection for at least 100k dream world be damned!
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I would not call a few bolts breaking catastrophic. I mean they fixed it and did not need a new engine. I call catastrophic what happened to the 1989 Mercury Cougar XR-7 that had 6000 miles and threw a rod through the cylinder wall catastrophic as Ford sent a full crate motor to replace it. Car was a Demo none the less and not a customers and my mom was driving it and she does not exactly drive like a maniac as I would. Like I said I hammer mine pretty good and think I was the first to tell my Service Writer that I heard a noise from the rear suspension when sliding the rear around left hand corners as well as when hammering it off the line. He told the techy I heard a thumping from the rear when driving spiritedly and the techy had some strange look of what was I talking about on his face. The Advisor told him when I was tossing the rear out. It turned out to be the damn ESP Psuedo LSD crap, the brakes were activating to sping the other tire due to loss of traction with ESP in the off position via the dash button. Stupid MB can't put an LSD rear in and has to do it with electronics and brakes..... Like LSD is that expensive of an option to add.
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2003 Pewter C230K SC C1, C4, C5, C7, heated seats, CD Changer, and 6 Speed. ContiExtremes on the C7's.
1986 190E 2.3 Black, Auto, Mods to come soon.....
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