"Why don't I use ABS (you can tell, as the pedal pulses during ABS operation) very often? Well, even on ice, I anticipate the low traction and usually don't even come close to threshold braking. Sometimes I do, but not often."

this isnt a question about ABS anymore, this is a testament to your insanity...

you just proved my point... YOU CANNOT SEE BLACK ICE... anyone that tells me that they dont need ABS on ice is in my opinion an idiot that should not be trusted.

im stopping this conversation as i can see that you are not making any sense and i am wasting my time... i never intended to have a chat with you... all i wanted to do was tell the person that started the post about the issues i have had with the problem he is having. if you cannot respect that than you can kiss my a$$.