Originally Posted by JimSmith

I believe you have Joe confused with me. As far as I know, neither of us has ever changed our screen names.

I never said Clinton did not commit perjury either, but I did say the question of whether or not he was having sex with Monica Lewinski was asked in the context of a grand jury investigation gone awry - the subject of the investigation was Whitewater, not blowjobs, dirty dresses or sex in the oval office. Even the judge said the line of questioning was not pertinent to the case. So, the consequence of Clinton's perjury, committed because of political agendas of the opposition party at the time and not because of a complaint by Ms. Lewinski that he refused to pay to have her dress laundered or any other short coming on the part of President Clinton, affected no one. Because it was no one's business. Unless, of course, you are unable to mind your own business, and are obsessed with the Presidential Erection.

But, in the case of Tom Delay, there is a pattern of abuse of power, and as Kirk has noted, subversive activities to launder corporate politcal donations to help Republicans get elected in Texas. That is not Tom Delay getting a blow job from a woman, a man, or himself, which would be no one's business. But violating a federal or State law, that is of interest to all of us who want to ensure the country is ruled by law, not by those who would ignore the law.

I know you have a great deal of difficulty seeing that Clinton's perjury is about as menial as perjury can get, and in the grand scheme of things, he allowed himself to be painted into a corner where his judgement failed him. It is apparent that all politicians are human and have lapses of judgement. Clinton's were not failures that endangered the national security, interfered with his ability to continue to carry out the duties of President, or were in any way detrimental to any Americans other than those in his family. Nothing he did was illegal, up to the point of being cornered by Kenneth Starr and asked a question having nothing to do with the purpose of Kenneth Starr's investigation of Whitewater, which in and of itself was a politically motivated witch hunt.

But, the fact that you cannot get over Clinton's effort to spare his wife and daughter the embarrassment of confessing his sins to Kenneth Starr on the stand in a grand jury investigation of some other allegations, is clear evidence your judgement is clouded by other issues. You may hate Clinton for some other reason having to do with his policies that might be valid if the actions were contrary to your judgement of what would have been right. But I have surmised from your persistent, unsupported declarations about Clinton's perjury that you merely hate him because he is a Democrat. You can do that, it is within the range of options you have, just don't accuse others of being run by the DNC when it is so apparent that your depth of thought on these subjects goes no further than swallowing the RNC propaganda fed to you from the radio talk show blow hards and Fox News tools of the RNC. Jim