jim, i read your post on the spirit of SSI, when was the last time you read the communist manifesto?

can we agree that it takes time to earn money?

can we agree that time is a measurement of portions of our lives?

can we agree that the money we earn then represents portions of our life?

what gives anyone the right to forcibly take portions of my life, however small, simply because they need or want it?

if i give of my life willingly, that is one thing. if it is taken from me at the threat of lost liberty or worse (if i resist) lost life, acording to my means and given according to some need, that my friend is COMMUNISM. i never have agreed to the spirit of SSI as you have described it. even Roosevelt himself warned congress to stay away from the ever gathering pool of money set aside for SSI.....the bastages did not. now it's a ponsey scheme, destined for the same fate as all ponsey schemes........failure or greater fraud.