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Originally Posted by azimuth
jim, i read your post on the spirit of SSI, when was the last time you read the communist manifesto?
can we agree that it takes time to earn money?
can we agree that time is a measurement of portions of our lives?
can we agree that the money we earn then represents portions of our life?
what gives anyone the right to forcibly take portions of my life, however small, simply because they need or want it?
if i give of my life willingly, that is one thing. if it is taken from me at the threat of lost liberty or worse (if i resist) lost life, acording to my means and given according to some need, that my friend is COMMUNISM. i never have agreed to the spirit of SSI as you have described it. even Roosevelt himself warned congress to stay away from the ever gathering pool of money set aside for SSI.....the bastages did not. now it's a ponsey scheme, destined for the same fate as all ponsey schemes........failure or greater fraud.
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All "yes" answers to the direct questions. But they offer no support for your conclusion. If we do not agree to maintain some minimum standard of living for people so they can get old and not visibly disturb us by dying in the streets based on your logic, shouldn't we agree that opting out of taxes that pay for government services we don't use ourselves, or we feel we could do better and cheaper ourselves should be allowed? If you agree that all this tax is taking away your life I would expect you to find that paying for police, the legal system, banking oversight, schools, etc. etc. right up to defense of the nation should be optional. And I guess many of us would not opt to pay any taxes. I mean, we could subscribe to the plan of leaving the country a big charitable donation when we die if we had one then if that would work.
America would not be what it is today without a goal for a minimum standard of living for all its people, especially the elderly who have contributed a lifetime of labor to making America great. My view of America is not one where our strength comes from selfishness. Calling support of Social Security Communism is a very ineffective cloak for such selfishness.
Jim
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