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Originally Posted by dculkin
Social Security is not a promise of security. It is real security and has been real security for 70 years.
I appreciate the concession that there was a "deparate problem".
As for Social Security being a temporary solution, it hasn't missed a beat for 70 years and is projected to remain 100% solvent for about another 50, with or without adjustments. With some good faith tweaking it can remain permanently solvent. So, if we can survive until 2008, maybe we can elect some people who will be willing to act in good faith.
Who is promoting communism? You keep returning to that point. Do you really think SS is a communist program?
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any security provided by someone else or some other entity, is only a promise. true security is what the individual provides.
the desparate problem to which i was referring was the great depression; now over since wwII.
social security was intended to be a supplemental temporary solution. it has sinced morphed into some moderate full blown retirement benefit plan. which is fine by me.
where i have my quarrel in in that since the SSI fund was raided, it has changed from a savings with interest program to a rob from one biblical charachter to pay another. that, my friend, as it applys to SSI is a principle of communism. I am fully behind the SSI program and it's benefits as long as the implementation remains capitolistic in priciple.
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Originally Posted by dculkin
So does starvation.
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i'm sure people went hungry before the SSI program. i'm comforted that fewer are now. i'd like to be even more efficient there. i think the best way to accomplish that is to do it through capitolistic priciples.
however, i'm certain that the total number of people who are now and have ever starved in this nation, wouldn't even scratch the surface in comparison to the numbers of people murdered and oppresed and yes , starved by communism.
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Originally Posted by dculkin
Good sentiment, but wouldn't the elimination of Social Security return us to the "desparate problem" you mentioned earlier?
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i am only for eliminating the socialist nature of SSI
i have seen first hand the good that SSI has done. we can make it better while preserving the principles upon which this nation was founded. i know i need not say it, but, this is the greatest nation in the world for opportunity. do we have problems? yeah, but when i look at the other nations probs., and having lived in a third world nation for a large portion of my life, i much prefer our warts to thiers. thanks for your time.