IN-N-OUT, never heard of it unitl my son and I flew out to Sacramento, back in September, for a Baseball tournament he was in with "Perfect Game" It's great, we ate there about 4 times. He got the 4x4,huge, each time we ate there. He's a big boy 6'2" 190, so I excpected that. Whataburger here in Texas is good as well, but I don't think it's as good as IN-N-OUT. Locally here in Austin, Sandy's, Huts, Players, Dirty Maritns and Fudruckkers make great burgers.