These weren't big fires, I mean little "pooms" that you hear, and can almost feel, nothing major enough to help it get going, I cranked it 10 seconds after that, and the little pooms went away, just kept rotating. Its odd because at -5 or above with a good glow it will start in 5-6 cranks no problem. -8 seems to have been the point where it didn't work....Next time its that cold I'm just going to bring out the bucket of hot water with me before I try to start it at all. 
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