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Originally Posted by aklim
So, with that in mind, you could say that Hitler has inadvertently done a lot for the elimination of race based discrimination. However, isn't Judaism a religion? I mean, I can be a Jew and so can you, right?
How does what they signed have anything to do with the bravery of the soldiers? If they were brave they were brave, irrespective of what Stalin signs. BTW, Hitler was #2 compared to what Stalin did. His brand of '"problem solving" was not even based on race, religion or creed. It was based on his own paranoia.
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There is a bit of irony in that, yes, Hitler did much to reduce racism in the long run. Plus the creation of Israel. But you can excuse his actions.
Who can be a Jew is a highly debated topic. Even in the Old Testament, it had a different term for prosletyzed Jews than "natural" born Jews. In my book, you can be a Jew by birth or religion, and being a Christian, a follower of a Jew, that makes me Jewish
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The point you bring up can be looked at several ways.
You cannot judge each individual by what their country/leaders chose to do, but you can judge a COUNTRY, which is what Im doing.
You could also say, as a group, the American soilders showed more bravery, since they were not even defending their own country. What the Russians did, anyone would have done, what the Americans did, few would have done.
As individual soldiers, you cannot judge them, but you could say that if you were to pluck out any soldier out of a group of Americans or Russians who served, then you are MORE LIKELY to find an American soldier who performed more bravely than a Russian soldier.
The Russians showed what they were made of when they took on the Finns and had their butts basically handed to them. The French also showed their colors when their Minister of Interior had to issue an edict saying any govt official who would FLEE France or Paris when the Germans started bombing it, would be arrested. Compare that to how the Finns responded when the Russains bombed Helsinki. The Finn officials, instead of trying to flee, sent out pictures of the dead from Russian bombers to all the country which rallied the Finns to fight, and fight they did.
THe stories of Russian soldiers fleeing the German onslaught is many and common, much more so than any stories of cowardice by American soldiers. And the Americans werent even defending their own country.