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Originally Posted by carson356
so does the battery recieve a charge before it will start again? or does it just set then it will start,if it just sets then the battery likely isn't at fault, as ethan said, it still could be the starter lube lube issue i guess, it may be that i havent seen one as bad as this, and even holding it in the start position will not do it,
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The battery does not receive a charge. I restarted, or attempted to restart the car about 20 times in about a 10 minute time frame. It would always start IF the starter turned the engine over more than two revolutions. Other times, the starter would turn the engine over two revolutions and then stop working (as if power was cut...Did seem like it ran out of energy). I immediately would try again, and it did the same a few more times. I kept trying and then it would start. Let it idle for a minute, shut it down and immediately do another restart. Sometimes it would restart right away as normal, others, just spin the engine over two revolutions and then the starter would stop working.
When it would not restart, the closest I can compare is the sensation that the engine hydro locked at the beginning of the third engine revolution as the starter abruptly stopped spinning the engine (again, the key continually held in the start position). One may suspect that perhaps (a long shot) that one cylinder has more pressure on the compression stroke...Perhaps a leaking head gasket with coolant being drawn in?...However the engine runs very smooth with great power on the highway. Perhaps by coincidence, some of the times it would not start, I had the door open (interior light on, power drain?) however, there were times it would not start when the doors were closed.
Some things I suspected:
Damaged starter (internal magnet damage etc) not having enough torque to turn the engine when there happen to be two cylinders near their compression strokes, putting more load on the weak starter.
Or, weak battery causing the same above, where the starter is not getting enough power to overcome times when the engine needs to be spun when two cylinders are near their compression stroke.
The starter needing lubing is something I didn’t know about and could be the prob. I do recall seeing the tach jump to 2000rpms when the starter stopped (while key held in the start position).
carson356, could you post that link again to the starter lube bulletin?
Thanks,
MarkC