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Originally Posted by glenmore
If all you only listen to is the MSM, I'm not surprised you haven't heard the "other" side. The MSM is relentless in their negativity, but fortunately there are other options now.
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Sorry, I don’t listen to Limbaugh enough anymore to keep up with the cutesy phrases he comes up with to dismiss people to the left of Attilla the Hun with. What the Hay-ell is the MSM?
***edit*** Oh my, it just hit me: the MainStream Media!! Damn those liberal lefty, plants, just waiting to be activated by their masters. There is liberal media in this country -- Mother Jones, the Nation, The Progressive, In These Times, Z Magazine -- but the MSM ain't nearly as liberal as Rush Mountmore would have us believe. Check out fair.org or listen to their radio show, "Counterspin," if you want to hear some examples of such bastions of liberality like the NY Times doing toady service for Dubbers and crew.
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I read this stuff all the time. I think their articles are clear and concise. I can understand why you don't like them. I don't like reading lefty stuff either. Plenty of disagreement in these articles, but that is healthy. Argument doesn't seem to be tolerated much on your side of the aisle.
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Thanks for cluing me on what my side of the aisle is up to. I have a hard time keeping up with those guys. I do have a hard time with arguement. That's why I spend so much time on this site.
I detect the steady rumble of serious ax grinding going on in the Nat. Review. Some conservative writers are solid -- Krauthammer, Geo. Will, Buchanan. A lot of 'em are oh so strident -- Michelle Malkin and Dennis Prager come to mind.
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You have no evidence of this. Common sense would tell you EVERYONE was apprenhensive about this thing going in. Show me ONE cavalier, Slim Picken's Dr. Strangelove type character before the invasion.
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Very few of us have much evidence of anything here. I wasn’t there when Rummy-rum allegedly turned to an aide on 9/11 or 12 and said words to the effect that wouldn’t it be nifty if we pinned this one on Saddam. I'm not sure if "common sense" is a phrase that can find much application when the topic is Geo. Bush, Dick Cheney, and RumRunners. They have an understaning of how power works in this country but I ain't seen much common sense from that corner.
If you can stomach the lefty spin machine, you might be interested in this Frontlines video on Rumsfeld, complete with some opinions from inside players who allege that Rummers was in a slo-mo hurry to go into Iraq. The miracle of streaming media:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/pentagon/view/