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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1735363)

Wow they are getting cheap enough to get hacked, damn that sucks. E300D's are nice cars, fun to drive with the chip, shame to see this.

No kidding. :(

Wowee. A bit touchy here.

I know the 210s are less expensive in the US, but that's not the case up here. Trust me, if I could get a 10k e300d, I'd be in heaven. There's no such thing up here in Canada. Any car under 14k is generally worn out and has no records.

I know all about the GPs and other idiocyncracies, thanks.

And I also know the difference between SVO and WVO. I've been using WVO for almost 5 years, and have over 400 000 veggie kms on the 5 cars I've converted: 3 VWs, 1 benz and 1 suzuki/VW mutt.

I remember when everyone was saying the same thing about VW TDis. "Oh, you can't convert those, they're direct injection!" LOL

Really, lighten up.

But I do understand some of your reservations. There are a lot of dogpatch conversions out there. I've seen cars that used garden hose for fuel & coolant line, with twine tying the bundled hoses to the brake lines.

There are tidy conversions out there, they're just not as much fun to talk about as the scary ones.;)

I have yet to see a factory quality conversion. For starters you have a big greasy tank bolted right into the trunk.

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1735558)

I have yet to see a factory quality conversion. For starters you have a big greasy tank bolted right into the trunk.

Yeah the tank is an issue... there isn't much room to play with, especially compared to an A2 or A3 Jetta, where you can get a good sized tank between the rear shock towers:

http://www.jakepalmeristheman.com/up...w25-776581.JPG

Not much to see, I guess, because the "big greasy tank" is hidden.

I paid 7900.00 for mine a month ago and got it in Texas, I put 1200.00 into it and it runs gr8...

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Originally Posted by Veggi2Fuel (Post 1735618)

I paid 7900.00 for mine a month ago and got it in Texas, I put 1200.00 into it and it runs gr8...

I would be very, very interested in seeing pics of your setup. I'm trying to get my head around the fuel plumbing right now.

Are you using a shared filter for diesel & vegetable oil?

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Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 1735746)

I would be very, very interested in seeing pics of your setup. I'm trying to get my head around the fuel plumbing right now.

Are you using a shared filter for diesel & vegetable oil?

My car is not converted yet. But you do no want to run the WVO and diesel thru same filter unless you mix minimum 75 to 25 and 50 05 in winter. you can heat your maine tank and have a small 5 gallon diesel tank in trunk... goto greasecar.com for all info you ma need. I like the grease kings set up its all well made and the best value. good luck

Quick note on Frybrid, while there is a kit listed, it is not for sale. He has been working on it for a couple of years, but under the section where you order it there is no link or price.

Orlando

I don't waste my time trying to convince people that WVO is not going to cause engine trouble. It leaves more grease for me to easily acquire!

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Originally Posted by mdisav (Post 1735360)

I have used the Elsbett system for the past 40k miles on my 99 and it has worked extremely well. It starts and drives as normal with just a little longer glow time when it gets below 50F. When it gets into the 30's and below two or three gallons of diesel to 20 gallons of wvo works excellent. It starts as normal with just a little longer glow time.

The key is you MUST use canola oil. It can be slightly used but not abused. Make sure all oil is never hazy when going into the tank. ALWAYS filter with .5 micron sock filters from Filtersource. They are the best. The ones from goldenfuel systems aka greasel are not as good.

I have just about always used wvo not svo.

DO NOT use soy or peanut in the winter. I would not used peanut at all. It leaves syrupy residue on the cap and filler neck. Soy leaves waxy crystals. Most Chinese restaurants use soy so check.

If you stick to canola you will not have any problems and your filters will last thousands of miles. Best places are Baja Fresh and Taco Bell but any place that uses canola and it looks good is great. Check for partially hydrogentated oil and DO NOT use it.

I find it very interesting that you don't want to use partially hydrogenated oils. Because vegetable oil becomes hydrogenated and acidic (due to the formation of free fatty acids (FFAs)) when heated to high temperatures, as is done in fryolators. So you are getting hydrogenated oils, if you are using WVO, sorry to burst your bubble.

I have a 98 e300 160K purchased with 15500 K, Having the head redone because of a seized glow plug due to carbon build up. I would recommend if any body is going to grease a 210 they should have the plugs changed and the head reamed and done every 25 to 50K miles this will prevent coking of the tips. Also much More frequent oil changes. I use Ams oil 15/40 and See 32+ mpg and changed it at 155000 mile from 0/40.I was going to goto 10K es on the ams-oil but the head is being worked on was first quoted 4500+ tax but with shopping around i got it down to 2500 out the door with all parts.

I you see your check engine light go on and the glow plug timer not going o you have a glow plug issue.

Yep, I'll agree with that. I busted a GP off in the head when I did mine. Not fun.

From now on, they'll come out every year for anti-seize and to have the holes reamed. I never want to go through that again.

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Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 1833688)

R U Greasing?

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Originally Posted by Veggi2Fuel (Post 1834721)

R U Greasing?

You betcha... flipped the switch about 6 weeks ago. Check the link in my signature.

RE: Considering switching to WVO in the 98 E300

NO!!@@!!

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Originally Posted by turbodiesel (Post 858099)

Is there any risk of hurting the injection pump or engine?

YES!!!