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DslBnz 04-25-2008 12:52 AM

They're such fun cars. The OM606 with the 3.07 differential + overdrive is so communicative, you're on cloud nine with these things.

Do I think they're better than an SDL? Hell no! But they are reliable, quick once on boost, and a little bit more fuel efficient than a W126.

Don't ruin these fine cars with greasy garbage, please. At 5 - 10K dollars a block, leave 'em alone and stick to the straight stuff.

Long live the screaming 60x engines!!!

(I have to get off the 12 cups of a caffeine rush):o

notfarnow 04-25-2008 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DslBnz (Post 1834984)
Don't ruin these fine cars with greasy garbage, please. At 5 - 10K dollars a block, leave 'em alone and stick to the straight stuff.

5-10K?? Man you guys are lucky down there. Up here in canuckistan, you rarely see one for under 14k. A decent one is 16+

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbodiesel (Post 858099)
Is there any risk of hurting the injection pump or engine?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioPOWER (Post 1834962)
YES!!!

Depends. In my climate for example, I'd be lucky if my car lasted a year running b50. SVO/WVO is a far safer option where I live.

Hatterasguy 04-25-2008 12:21 PM

I think he was talking about the cost of rebuilding engine.

BigBen 04-25-2008 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbodiesel (Post 858099)
but nothing specifically covering this model (OM606 E300 Turbo) and the actual construction of the system.

You can follow what this guy has done, really good write up with plenty of photos for a 1999 E300 Turbodiesel:

1999 E300 Home made WVO conversion

notfarnow 04-25-2008 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBen (Post 1835710)
You can follow what this guy has done, really good write up with plenty of photos for a 1999 E300 Turbodiesel:

1999 E300 Home made WVO conversion

I hear that guy is brilliant and handsome!

BigBen 04-25-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 1835723)
I hear that guy is brilliant and handsome!


What a good one! I did not realize you were here as well! At least I am consistent in my comments!

Drop me a line if you come in Montreal area, I'll congratulate you in person.

Cheers,

bgkast 04-25-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 1835167)


Depends. In my climate for example, I'd be lucky if my car lasted a year running b50. SVO/WVO is a far safer option where I live.

How do you figure?

zeet 04-25-2008 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 1835723)
I hear that guy is brilliant and handsome!

Not to change the thread too much, but what's up with that rhythmic knocking sound? I don't get that on my 606. Have you got a weak lifter or a bad motor mount? It seems to happen once per rev and is audible in both the first two videos on the 'flip the switch' entry. I get the same diesel/valvetrain noise over the idling engine, but there's definitely a thumping there that my 606 doesn't have.

RichC 04-25-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1735339)
I'll be up in NJ pulling the head from that 606 in a pick n pull in about 6-8 months....
SVO use= future parts cars
why ruin such a good car with an ILLEGAL fuel
try biodiesel
WVO= waste veggie oil
SVO= straight veggie oil
two different acronyms... SVO denotes running only on veggie whereas WVO just stands for used cooking oil for all applications

Have you pulled lots of heads off of cars that use veggie ?

My guess is that you have not.
Not even one !
Be honest, have you ever used veggie, know anyone that does, or even
met a guy that has ?

Do you have any real experience at all ?

I didn't think so.

:jester:

RichC 04-25-2008 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioPOWER (Post 1834962)
NO!!@@!!
YES!!!


Do you have any proof of this ?

Or is it just your opinion ?

:jester:

.

notfarnow 04-25-2008 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 1835167)
In my climate for example, I'd be lucky if my car lasted a year running b50. SVO/WVO is a far safer option where I live.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgkast (Post 1835768)
How do you figure?

I don't know anyone who can run higher than b50 up here in the winter. Gelled fuel + plugged filters + high viscocity fuel = strain on IP + higher fuel system vacuum = air leaks + problems. Biodiesel usually gels at a higher temp than vegetable oil, and if that's the only fuel you have in your system, you're not going anywhere. If my WVO is gelled, that's OK because I start on diesel, and only switch to veg once it's warm enough to flow.

Anectodally, I know 3 people who I have met in person who's IP packed it in within the first week or two of running commercial b50. I haven't met anyone who's had that experience with WVO, and I've met a lot more of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBen (Post 1835766)
What a good one! I did not realize you were here as well! At least I am consistent in my comments!
Drop me a line if you come in Montreal area, I'll congratulate you in person.
Cheers,

Yep! I came here when I first started reading up on e300d's. Got lots of great advice, and got the wits scared out of me about om606 glow plugs. I'll actually be in montreal TWICE in the next couple months... once mid-may and then again for the Montreal GP... we'll have to meet up!

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Originally Posted by zeet (Post 1835797)
Not to change the thread too much, but what's up with that rhythmic knocking sound? I don't get that on my 606. Have you got a weak lifter or a bad motor mount? It seems to happen once per rev and is audible in both the first two videos on the 'flip the switch' entry. I get the same diesel/valvetrain noise over the idling engine, but there's definitely a thumping there that my 606 doesn't have.

I don't know! Ever since I started running unfiltered WVO, I've had that aweful noise and it's only running on 4 cylinders until it warms up, then it runs on 5.










just kidding! Actually when I first heard that video, I went right out to the car in my sock feet and started it up. No noise. I've never heard it... in fact I didn't even hear it when I was shooting that clip. Therory #1 is that it's a certain noise that the camera could pic up on but mere mortals can't hear. Theory #2 is that it was a noisy injector because there still some air in the lines... I've noticed noisy injectors on VWs and even my dad's 300sd if they get some air bubbles running through. Other than that, I really can't say... I have never, ever heard the noise other than in those 2 clips.

BioPOWER 04-25-2008 08:59 PM

E300 turbo + WVO/SVO =

http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/asset...t-Car-Fire.jpg


Sure it works, they'll burn anything......but come on! It's an E300!!
If you wanna go green.. use bio!

RichC 04-25-2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioPOWER (Post 1835861)
E300 turbo + WVO/SVO =

Sure it works, they'll burn anything......but come on! It's an E300!!
If you wanna go green.. use bio!

.

Talk about fear mongering, wow.

Do you have any proof to back up your claims ?
Any at all ?

Have you ever used veggie ?

:jester:

.

BioPOWER 04-26-2008 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichC (Post 1835882)
Talk about fear mongering, wow.

Do you have any proof to back up your claims ?
Any at all ?

Have you ever used veggie ?

Have you ever driven an E300?

notfarnow 04-26-2008 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioPOWER (Post 1835861)
Sure it works, they'll burn anything......but come on! It's an E300!!
If you wanna go green.. use bio!

I'll repeat, because this was inconveniently placed right above your post, so you may have missed it: ;):D

Quote:

Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 1835855)
I don't know anyone who can run higher than b50 up here in the winter. Gelled fuel + plugged filters + high viscocity fuel = strain on IP + higher fuel system vacuum = air leaks + problems. Biodiesel usually gels at a higher temp than vegetable oil, and if that's the only fuel you have in your system, you're not going anywhere. If my WVO is gelled, that's OK because I start on diesel, and only switch to veg once it's warm enough to flow.

Anectodally, I know 3 people who I have met in person who's IP packed it in within the first week or two of running commercial b50. I haven't met anyone who's had that experience with WVO, and I've met a lot more of them.



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