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Hallelujah! Shift problems fixed!
Well, my transmission shifting issues are fixed. I finally gave up and took the 1982 300sd to the dealer. They warranty their repairs for a full year - parts too. A week ago the mechanic replaced the two valves on the valve cover. Friday after degreasing the engine, the car started revving up before each shift. Dealer confirmed that the vac valve the independent mechanic put on was defective and leaking. Several people here have said these have no effect except on the EGR. The dealer says otherwise. If valve on valve cover leaks, it sends incorrect pressure to the modulator and modulator will never adjust correctly until valve is replaced. My cleaning the engine had nothing to do with the part failure.
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1982 300SD Light Blue 2002 Honda Accord SE 1974 Toro Wheel Horse Tractor 2000 Toyota Tundra Pickup |
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My 3/2 valve is blown. I tried to buy one at the local MB pick a part and they wouldn't sell me just the valve, they wanted to sell me the entire package for $150! ! !
I'll just pick up a new one one of these days soon....take about 30 minutes to replace and away we go!
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1998 W202 C230 - The money pit of late. 1984 W126 300SD (356,800 miles) Gone to the wrenchapart 1984 W123 300D Gone to the wrenchapart 1972 W108 280SE 3.5 (sold but not forgotten) 1986 Buick Grand National 3.8l Turbo (86k miles) 1966 Glassic Model 'A' Replica http://www.glassicannex.org http://banners.wunderground.com/weat...Round_Rock.gif |
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If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay? I'm almost at that step with my car, I can't figure this out for the life of me.
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Adam Lumsden (83) 300D Vice-President of the MBCA International Stars Section |
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He gives pricing here: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=110901&highlight=vacuum+valve
but check out Fastlane for the parts...... Check for 3/2 valve
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1998 W202 C230 - The money pit of late. 1984 W126 300SD (356,800 miles) Gone to the wrenchapart 1984 W123 300D Gone to the wrenchapart 1972 W108 280SE 3.5 (sold but not forgotten) 1986 Buick Grand National 3.8l Turbo (86k miles) 1966 Glassic Model 'A' Replica http://www.glassicannex.org http://banners.wunderground.com/weat...Round_Rock.gif |
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1998 W202 C230 - The money pit of late. 1984 W126 300SD (356,800 miles) Gone to the wrenchapart 1984 W123 300D Gone to the wrenchapart 1972 W108 280SE 3.5 (sold but not forgotten) 1986 Buick Grand National 3.8l Turbo (86k miles) 1966 Glassic Model 'A' Replica http://www.glassicannex.org http://banners.wunderground.com/weat...Round_Rock.gif |
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'82 300SD - 361K mi - "Blue" "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." listen, look, .........and duck. |
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what would be better
Plug the 2 plastic vacuum lines that lead up to the valve cover switch. Plug them independently, i.e., don't plug one into the other, just block them both. The transmission will behave as if there are no leaks in the EGR system affecting the shifting (because they're not connected)
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'82 300SD - 361K mi - "Blue" "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." listen, look, .........and duck. |
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This seems to be a sticking point of confusion for people.
1. There are several incarnations of these vac valves, single, double stacked, double flat, etc, etc. Depends on year. 2. I can tell you for sure on the double STACKED models, one is for EGR, one is for shift control. And by shift control, it shunts HIGH vacuum to the modulator at closed throttle for obvious reasons. If they leak, it'll screw things up, as Will has found. If your patient and your tranny/bleed valve on the IP are in good shape, you CAN do away with them, but it's a *****. It lessens your margin of "error" in your vacuum curve, that fine line between feeling downshifts and too soft light throttle shifts. If you hook up a vac gauge to the line to the tranny modulator and just do open the throttle on a car with functioning valves, you'll see the vac dive from 17inches or so down to about 10 as I recall, WAY faster than the bleed valve will move it on it's own. I will never EVER own another automatic MB. Glad your up and running Will, now let's fix those oil cooler lines!
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One more Radar Lover gone... 1982 VW Caddy diesel 406K 1.9L AAZ 1994 E320 195K |
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Does anyone know where these valves are located on the '85 300D, CA version? I don't think i've seen them on top of the cam cover.
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1985 CA 300D Turbo , 213K mi |
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Find the correct vacuum diagram for your car and the great mysteries of the universe will be revealed. The vacuum control systems for the transmissions in these cars are really quite simple. Do a little searching and reading.
1985 is a special case, it has an electronic controller. |
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Are you refering to the vacuum amplifier?(blue thing) It's not electric, vacuum.
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One more Radar Lover gone... 1982 VW Caddy diesel 406K 1.9L AAZ 1994 E320 195K |
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