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Old 04-06-2005, 09:08 PM
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'85 300D Tach

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Tachometer has stopped functioning. Somewhere along the way I had a breakdown of how to figure out the problem, as this has happened before. The last time I used compressed air and cleaned the sensor mounted above the ring gear, while it was mounted on the bell housing. This time, compressed air does not work.
I looked in the archives, only found information relating to the tach sensor mounted on the drivers side fender next to the glow plug relay. In a way, the car has this, a three wire harness coming off the balancer, and two separate wires leading into the main harness. There is no circuit board.
I have the first version of the 123 CD, and cannot find a thing related to the tachometer. There are several pages missing from the first versions, Mercedes came out with updated CD's later.
With the tachometer inop, the a/c compressor will not engage. Are there any suggestions? Specs, other ways to test the sensor, tach ???????
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:38 PM
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The tach in my '85 300D sometimes doesn't work at startup. A light slap to the top of the dash above the cluster wakes it up. Probably a bad solder joint on the tach circuit board. Just haven't had time to pull the cluster (risking more problems disturbing 20 year old everythings) to investigate. You MAY have a similar issue.
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:07 PM
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Tach amp is most likely the casue of this...........the little black garbage can looking thing on left front fender.
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:30 PM
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Note, the '85 300D does not have a little black plastic cylinder on the L fender. The circuit is in an aluminum box, similar to the climate control box, located under the dash on the Rt side, you have to remove the glove box to get to it.
I have never seen the schematic diagram, if anyone has a copy of that I would like to see it.
Are you sure the tach sender at the crank isn't bad, like the wire is torn or something? Using a spare module to swap in place of the questionable one is the first thing I would try. I use a module for that. And then swapping the dash gauge (or entire instrument cluster would be the next thing to try (more difficult than swapping the tach module).
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:03 AM
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There's a modern style type of fuse located behind the glove box on the '85's. You need to pull the glove box to get to it plus move the air duct to find it.
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Old 04-07-2005, 05:49 PM
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After work today, I removed the magnetic pick-up (mounted behind the oil filter housing), cleaned the magnetic probe, and re-installed. What I noticed upon startup was this:
When turning the key to "on", the tach needle barely moves.
The tach still does not function with the engine running.
When turning the engine off, the tach "jumps" to 500 RPM then to 0 when engine is off.

I also checked continuity between the two terminals (brown wire and white wire), coming off the pick-up. Nothing. This might be the problem, as the seal where the wires enter the sensor housing is cracked, probably moisture and crud have done their damage. I used a little compressed air to clean out any crap, still nothing.
I finally found the schematic for the cluster, the tach pick-up is nothing more than a coil with a wire at each end. I think there should be continuity at all times. Even with the engine running, I did not pick up any continuity. (Using a digital meter with audio function for continuity). I am leaning towards replacing the tach pick-up (aka engine speed sensor). Any thoughts? Alan
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My tack wasn't working either. I had read somewhere to place a small piece of foam or something that would press down again the silicone layer of the tack (garbage can) part and then screw the cap down to put pressure , Mine started working after this.
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My tack wasn't working either. I had read somewhere to place a small piece of foam or something that would press down again the silicone layer of the tack (garbage can) part and then screw the cap down to put pressure , Mine started working after this.
85's have a different style.....
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