Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-23-2005, 12:44 PM
OMEGAMAN's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 705
Grades of diesel fuel?

I work for a railroad and was told by several people I work with that the fuel we pump into locomotives is a cheap low grade fuel that will gel in cool temps and provide poor performance in an automobile at any temp and ruin injector pumps!
Is this a load of B.S. so we won't steal their fuel (most locomotives hold 4500 gallons or more so who would notice) or is there some truth to this? P.S. it is dyed red for tax purposes.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-23-2005, 12:52 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 689
There is a lot of propganda out there. You can read such scary stuff in the Arizona DOT's pamplets to discourage people from running un taxed fuel. You will get in big trouble from the tax police if you run red dyed fuel. As far as I know home heating oil, and #1 and #2 diesel will burn in any diesel. You may void a warranty if you use off road or any "non-automotive" diesel. It may lack some additives in on road diesel but nothing that would hurt most diesels. Actually the rail road fuel probably has a higher cetane rating and is probably better for your car. It might clog your filters faster since I doubt for those large of engines it is critical to have particle removal. Certainly it would burn fine in a 70's or early 80's benz
__________________
My Daily : 96 E-300 Diesel with 195,000 miles
Retired: 92 300D 2.5 T 345K miles and for sale
Retired: 95 E320 157K miles and currently parked with blown engine

Both retired cars are for sale as is my w124 shop inventory
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-23-2005, 02:36 PM
Fimum Fit
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I would have guessed that locomotives used

one of the ultra-heavy grades of "bunker oil" like the diesels in ocean-going ships, but that may have been a foolish assumption.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-23-2005, 03:10 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 689
Possibly. I didn't think they were that big. I would guess the diesels in locomotives are small compared to ocean going vessels. If it was bunker oil there would not be much reason for red dye. My research shows locomotives use common diesel fuel
__________________
My Daily : 96 E-300 Diesel with 195,000 miles
Retired: 92 300D 2.5 T 345K miles and for sale
Retired: 95 E320 157K miles and currently parked with blown engine

Both retired cars are for sale as is my w124 shop inventory
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-23-2005, 05:14 PM
OMEGAMAN's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 705
bunker

I have seen some large diesels from ferry boats on the west coast of Canada and they are nothing like locomotive diesels 10 times the size. These things only produce 4400 hp at about 1100 rpm only god knows about the torque!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-23-2005, 06:52 PM
Wodnek's Avatar
Vintage Mercedes Junkie
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Southeast Wisconsin
Posts: 1,661
Bunker used on ships is usually #6. Locomotives in warm cliamates use #4. #4 and 6 need to be heated to burn.
__________________
1959 Gravely LI, 1963 Gravely L8, 1973 Gravely C12
1982 380SL
1978 450 SEL 6.9 euro restoration at 63% and climbing
1987 300 D
2005 CDI European Delivery
2006 CDI Handed down to daughter
2007 GL CDI. Wifes

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-23-2005, 11:34 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: PA
Posts: 5,440
Omegaman,

The fuel for RR Diesel engines is to viscos for Small Diesel engines. MB Diesels are designed to run on #2 Diesel, the RR fuel is probably # 4 or higher. Maybe if you cut it 50% with #1 fuel (kerosene) it would work ok in warm weather.

P E H
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-23-2005, 11:52 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Blue Point, NY
Posts: 25,396
Quote:
Originally Posted by OMEGAMAN
These things only produce 4400 hp at about 1100 rpm only god knows about the torque!
I am god.

21,000 lb-ft.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"not enough (diesel) fuel injection pressure" BenzDiesel General Information 56 05-11-2005 06:23 PM
High vs Low octane diesel Cisco Tech Help 10 02-22-2005 04:38 PM
can hot diesel fuel damage the IP? odie Diesel Discussion 1 02-01-2005 02:36 PM
Woo Hoo, 2004 US Diesels! CONFIRMED! Gilly Diesel Discussion 37 01-04-2005 09:43 PM
Mercedes-Benz Passenger Cars: Highly Successful Launch of Diesel Offensive wagger Diesel Discussion 62 09-12-2004 12:00 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page