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Old 05-31-2005, 07:14 PM
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4 spd tranny model no?

I need to carry out some repairs on my 4 speed tranny in my 1985 300GD. Getting parts and information on this tranny appears to be a bit difficult especially when dealing with outside vendors(ie not MB). So my question is this, what is the 4 spd manny tranny used in the 240D? The 300 GD uses a 717 202 that front the outside at elast looks similar to that used in the 240D, heck even teh gear shifter is the same.... Any help on this would be appreciated.

PS I scoured the archives but did not see any actual part numbers as far as the transmission is concerned.

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Old 05-31-2005, 10:16 PM
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What parts are you exactly looking for? The 4 speed TX 17 for 240D as well as 5 speed G-18 are manufactured here by ZF India and are used in various MB commercial vehicles.
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Old 06-01-2005, 09:09 AM
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What parts are you exactly looking for? The 4 speed TX 17 for 240D as well as 5 speed G-18 are manufactured here by ZF India and are used in various MB commercial vehicles.
While checking my U-joints I noticed considerable play in the output flange. There has been an oil leak around the output flange and so at first I thought it was just the seals going but now I think there must be a bearing starting to go as there is far too much play. There is also more noise from the driveline which at first I thought was u-joint related.

The reason I ask about the 240D is that the local repair shops only have access to information concerning NA MB sedans and nothing on the G(the G was never sold here so no surprise). If the tranny was used in the sedans I can hopefully get the parts/assistance I need.
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Old 06-01-2005, 09:36 AM
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The 4 speed is the same used in 240D except that the G had a different rear diff, the tranny is usually bullet proof but not when leaks are ignored, seals are not it's greatest strength, same goes for the G's T case as well, since Gurkha uses the same T case, I have had quite a few leakages from the T case.

The bearing should not be hard to find as 240D was commonly sold in US.
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:33 PM
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Have you tried tightning the nut on the output flange? I had one that was a little sloppy and tightning the nut solved the problem ..I had to make the "tightning tool" tho.
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:46 PM
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Have you tried tightning the nut on the output flange? I had one that was a little sloppy and tightning the nut solved the problem ..I had to make the "tightning tool" tho.
Hmmm, haven't done that, I guess I could give it a try, question is though, why would it be loose? That nut is staked in place right?
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Old 06-02-2005, 08:15 PM
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"That nut is staked in place right?"

Its held in place with a "serious" keeper, I know not why mine was lose, or how. I noticed the lose flange when I picked up the tranny to install it on an engine on a stand so I tighten the nut maybe, 1/8 of a turn, reset the "keeper, no more slop. I am driving the car now, and cant say I remember any strange sounds outa that tranny before I noticed the slop. Good Luck
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Old 06-02-2005, 11:25 PM
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I've found it very difficult to get good manual tranny info.

to that end, heres a copy of the manual transmission manual... be careful its a 20 meg .PDF, please rt click and save as.

http://rbk3.com/mbz/trans/MBZManual_Manual.pdf

we need a repository of manual tranny info here... or maybe theres already one that I don't know about.


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Old 06-07-2005, 08:56 PM
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I've found it very difficult to get good manual tranny info.

to that end, heres a copy of the manual transmission manual...

cheers,
Robert
Many thanks..... I think I will start with the most obvious(as suggested)... if I am lucky there just might be a loose nut on the output flange...if not, I will get the specific manual for my transmission and go from there.

Again, thanks for the help!!

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