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A W220 rear impact: did this spin and hit a tree or post backwards? Note the position of the impact point vs the rear of the roof
A W210 rear-ender: the truck in the background hit it A W126(?) side impact: this is the way a Mercedes Bendz No matter how survivable a car is engineered to be, survivability drastically suffers as impact speed increases, due to e=(1/2)mv |
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That last w126 is mutilated!!!
Now I just want to see a little tin can car in the same situation. I bet it would be flat |
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That's not a W126, looks like a W202 going by the tail light cutout and rear door.
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Well I'd hope $90k would buy you better crash protection then a $10k Yugo.
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That why EVERYTHING I drive is as BIG as I can get it. I felt VERY safe in my 1996 S500 I had years ago, and feel fairly safe in my 300SDL, but the only thing I feel safest in are any of my Suburbans. Its a simple matter of physics.
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A lot of the pictures you see like that are AFTER the passengers have been extracted. They use some pretty narly stuff to open up roofs and doors. Often they "scissor" the pillars and peel back the roof and pull out passengers that way.
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a suburban is as safe as any benz.
first the seat belts are crap. if hit any way other than straight on you will simply slide out the side. second the bodys are crap and will fold up. third they will turn over a lot quicker than any benz. and finally the avoidance capability is about nill in a sub. still though, they are a lot better than most cars. tom w
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What would happen if an H2 rearended a Unimog? Would the story be different?
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any body
could survive a rear end by a unimog. they have a top speed of maybe 25. unless it drove over the top, i suppose.
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A 124 will do at least as well as a 123 in a rear end collision.
The biggest problem with the SUVs is that very few of them have crush zones, with the dual result of all the force being absorbed by the other vehicle and the occupants being thrashed pretty badly if the SUV hits something besides another car. An SUV is much LESS saft for occupants than a car, in all accidents and particularly in single vehicle accidents as they roll over at the slightest provocation (even a crub can cause them to roll -- minvans are just as bad), and the older (US made in particular) ones have NO rollover cage, just thin sheet metal. The bodies often get ripped off the frame, too, and crush. Their handling is a best deplorable, at worst simply unsafe at any speed (and Hummers break tie rods if you try to use the off-road -- they were designed to be higher and wider than anything on the highway, not for real use -- the resemblence to the Army vehicle is mostly cosmetic). I am of the opinion that SUVs as currently sold should never have been licensed for passenger or automotive use, and they are a distinct hazard to other vehicles. Peter
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