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Need More Power for my 300SD
Hi everyone, I have a 81 300SD. I used it in a tarmack rally we have here
in Newfoundland , Canada. It is a 7 day race covering over 1300 Miles, with almost 400 Miles of NO SPEED LIMIT on local roads. Its called: www.targanewfoundland.com I am building a proper race car for next year. I am useing a 89 190E. I want to use a 3.0 5 cyl Turbo Diesel from my parts car. I want more power. Can anyone help... I was told to turn up my turbo and try a propain kit from Bulldog. I also would like a stick shift, Is there any manual trans that will fit my engine. I also saw a video clip on " www.500sec.com " called "diesel burn" It was a 190 Diesel with a stick shift laying rubber to third. With a wicked sounding engine. Thats what I NEED... If anyone can help, I will be very thank full Thanks . Jay |
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what section did you race in last year? Sounds fun to do. I wish I could find a place to open up my 300sd. There is a lot of info if you search for some of your questions, like performance in a 190E, etc. I bet there are a lot of people here that would like to help you out also.
DK
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1983 300sd 253,000 + 13,000 (10,000+ on veggie and biodiesel)= 266,000 1983 300sd 390,000 (Leaky windshield seal) Known to me as the shower car. Parts car now! 1 junk 300sd Watch out for the skunk that lives underneith it! |
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Have fun...
...I have probably one of the most modified 617's on the forum (other than perhaps docter berts...but he is going for efficency mostly). You can check out my threads to learn a little...then decide you want a 6 cylinder crossflow engine |
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I ran in the touring. So I did not need a roll cage. It is the most fun you can have with your close on. I need to find out what is the best way to turn the boost up on my turbo. Cheepest is best to me
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Turning up your boost will do little/nothing...these are not gas cars. Look up some diesel theory and do some searches...then report back |
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I have rebuild several MB diesels. I have never tryed to boost power. I know that I need more fuel and boost to start building more power. Were do I start?
I need Max Power from the poor bastard to even keep up with the rest of the pack. The engine only has to last 7 Days I want to leave with a twirl of back soot and wheel well full of white. Also will the 4 speed from a 280 hold up to the added power and pounding.... |
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I'm not sure I'd put a 600lb OM617 engine in a 190e, but this guy bought the sort of injection pump you'd want:
http://www.***************/forum/showthread.php?t=596 Was the car in the video you saw black? Probably had a 24v 3.0L with Holset HX40 turbo. There is a fellow in Finland who is working on the ultimate OM617 engined race car, I'd like to see how that turns out. If you like videos of mbz diesels and smoking tires: http://www.mersuforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13577
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You should ask this question over in the "Performance Paddock" also.
I'm sure you will find loads of info over there with the SEARCH feature. Danny
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BTW fix your tranny before you start screwing with the power
Its already stressful for the tranny let alone starting out with one that is already compromised |
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For a good flame war on the subject read from post #26 on in this thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=132474&page=2 To see actual data on boost effecting power output for the same amount of fuel read this report ( note it covers emissions too, so you'll have to look for it but its in there ) http://powerlab.mech.okayama-u.ac.jp/~esd/comodia2004/A6_1_022.pdf To get a real gain you need more boost and more fuel.
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When I am at full load pedal to the floor acceleration I get about 10psi boost according to my gauge, is that what it should be? What is factory spec?
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13 psi is spec for the OM617
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green 85 300SD 200K miles "Das Schlepper Frog" With a OM603 TBO360 turbo ( To be intercooled someday )( Kalifornistani emissons ) white 79 300SD 200K'ish miles "Farfegnugen" (RIP - cracked crank) desert storm primer 63 T-bird "The Undead" (long term hibernation) http://ecomodder.com/forum/fe-graphs/sig692a.png |
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Really? They rolled off the line with 13psi?? So I assume I just need to adjust the wastegate to allow a few more psi right?
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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life- '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k) |
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If you drove a 300SD with the boost at 10psi and another with the boost at 13psi...I doubt you would see much difference... ...atleast I don't. My boost is at 13psi becuase with the increased fuel I need more air...not becuase I think more air is going to give me more power. |
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