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Whether or not you can afford to take it, I feel that there is some excellent advice offered here.
One other thing I'd like to add: My brother went to mediation with a certain german automaker beginning with a, ... won in mediation, was supposed to be binding but the automaker re-negged. The mediation folks said that although mediation is binding, they have no power to enforce it, so it had to start over again with an attorney. Screw mediation, retain an attorney. - Jeff Miller 190DT |
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Recently my boss was involved in a court case not all unlike this. The short version is a guy bought a 1995 Buick with a 60 day warranty. Needed shocks dealer tried to bandaid it up. Shocks covered under warranty. Replaced shocks on his own coin well within the warranty period and sued dealer in small claims for the $900. Dealer bumps it up to real court thinking the guy won't hire a lawyer and will drop it. Guy hires two good lawyers! Bottom line is the dealer had to pay the $900, and $52k in legal fees plus they got stuck holding a bill for $46k from there lawyer.
Dealer got hosed little guy one, and lawyer's got nice payday.
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Jury awarded the guy legal fees because orignally it was a small claims court case. The guy filled in small claims but the dealer bumped it up to trial court. The jury reasoned that why should he have to pay the fees because he filled in small claims originally. Plus Judge was pissed that this case was wasting courts time.
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Well the guy did, he was pissed off, it was about principal at that point. I got the impression from my boss who spent about a week hearing the case, on the jury, that he had a temper. The reason I gave is what my boss said the jury came up with, with lots of instructions from the judge.
I think its a case of arrogant dealer meeting hot headed and pissed off customer.
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Boy named sue.
Forget mediation. You give up your legal rights with mediation.
Just sue the idiot. He will eventually figure out that it will be cheaper for him to pay you off and he can continue doing business ripping others off to make up for his losses.
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The seller must go the the buyer home state. Why? Because the paperwork was executed in his home state. If the buyer had gone to the sellers home state, the legal battle would have to be fought there. The sell screwed up letting the paperwork and the car go to the sellers state, before the deal was consumated.
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I'm not a lawyer. And usually gets screwed by the courts.
As lawyers are the only winners in the court game, as judges and DA's are lawyers too, first and foremost. Anyway, what is going on with the cracked head on the car? Did the dealer fix the crack? I wished I had a trap ox still attached to my car when my head cracked. To me it seems logical to ask the dealer to fix that cracked head along with the turbo and everything else, since history has proved that that trap thing was destroying otherwise great cars.
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An update for all those curious.
Hello,
I am in the midst of an eBay protection claim AND non-binding mediation with the seller. I will not capitulate to him for the removal of negative feedback, and the eBay mediator is now getting very worried because I've presented him with incontrovertible criminal evidence against the seller (eBay doesn't want to be in the business of aiding, abetting, or conspiring). The vehicle is at the dealership for a head estimate, which I will rush to the mediator and to the eBay protection claims adjuster as soon as I have it. I have also consulted with an attorney in CA who specializes in my sort of problem and who will be happy to assist me if my current options render no acceptable results. Interestingly enough, the "questionable" identity of the eBay seller bmwkunkworks was confirmed by a fellow eBayer who couldn't get a straight answer out of the seller as to who he was. Fortunately for this other gentleman, his Porsche arrived in good condition. DL
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i LIKE THAT WORD, "incontrovertible".
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Nice to see ebay in a position where they will probably have to perform primarily because the gentleman has a checkered background. To do otherwise could possibly make them libel as well. Not much they can safely give him or compromise on. Possibly they are looking for parachutes at this very moment. A little late for them I believe. Really a fraud is a fraud no matter what you call it. If the vendor insinuated the car was in good condition in his ad they have no manuvering room in my viewpoint without appearing to support fraud. Good going so far. Best of luck.
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LAZZMAN, DO have the odometer checked by an instrument specialist!!!
The digits on my 300SE are perfectly lined up, 128700. miles. However, the digits on my 300D , 164321. miles, are perfectly lined up with the exception of the number one digit representing 100,000. At the bottom of that '1' I can barely see the white of the next digit showing. From the drivers seat visual, all numbers look straight and aligned. With a magnifying glass up close, the white appears at the bottom of the '1' digit. Barely. The picture of your odometer on ebay looked real crooked all the way across!!!! The more you can threaten the seller with, the better your position, EVEN if you have legitimacey on your side to begin with. Legal matters are a can of worms. good luck
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